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01-07-2021
09:38 AM
Hi @ask_bill_brooks, Thanks for the follow up. There seems to be some confusion around the term "open source" and what that really means in terms of availability. Many assume that open source is the same as FOSS, which I understand is not true. If the announcement regarding Cloudera's commitment to open source clarified that source code would be available to paying subscriber's only I think the message would be clearer. I also believe part of the confusion is a level of disbelief that the community distribution of CDH, after what is perhaps over a decade of availability, is being terminated. That is a major disruption for small/medium companies that run on CDH. On your advice, I've urged my client to contact sales. Cheers.
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01-06-2021
11:33 AM
Hi @GangWar. Thank you for the information. I'm still confused on some matters. Can you offer some further clarification? @GangWar wrote: @crcerror Let me try to address your concern: Does this mean that even the older versions (6.3.x and older) that until now have still been available for download without a subscription, will no longer be available without a subscription? Yes, effective from January 31, 2020 every Cloudera software's binaries can be only accessed via a valid subscription. You mean January 31, 2021, right? Does that mean that if you have a cluster running 6.3.x without a subscription, you can no longer add new nodes to the cluster? or might this still work if you have already downloaded the parcels using Cloudera Manager? This will remain unchanged, as the paywall is only affecting accessing the binaries. The catch is if you have local repo set you can distribute parcels and expand cluster, but downloading parcels over internet will fail in this case. Sorry, I still don't understand how the Jan. 31, 2021 changes will affect an existing Cloudera Manager Express/CDH cluster. From a completely practical perspective, exactly what does a current Cloudera Manager Express/CDH user need to do before Jan. 31st to ensure that their existing installation continues to function as it does before Jan. 31st, including all capabilities such as adding/removing hosts, monitoring, etc? Is there specific documentation for this? What is the status of making all the code (such as Cloudera Manager) open source and available? I've not seen any news about that anymore. As far as I know you can still access source code from https://github.com/cloudera/ page only binaries can't be downloaded. The best way to get more details is to reach out Cloudera Sales Team. I can't find the source code to CDH, CDP or Cloudera Manager in Cloudera's Github org. To quote Cloudera's blog post https://blog.cloudera.com/our-commitment-to-open-source-software/ , For example, components such as Cloudera Manager, Cloudera Navigator, and Cloudera Data Science Workbench will all eventually be available under an open source license. and We plan to enact the license changes for all new releases moving forward including HDP, CDH and the upcoming Cloudera Data Platform (“CDP”). and Between September 2019 and January 2020, we’ll establish the new open source projects for formerly closed source components and begin licensing them under the AGPL. Can you point us to the source code for these specific products? Cheers. Michael Allman
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